If anyone could do it, it would be Soundgarden; creating musical thoughtforms with their alchemical rhythmical sound structures and now graduating to monkhood. The secret formula: Verse 9/8, 9/8, 9/8, 8/8 Pre Chorus 4/4, 4/4, 4/4, 7/8 Chorus 8/8 Noodle 4/4
Now I know who to call on when the invasion starts - that 9-8/8-7/8-4 combination should do it, oh but of course you will need the correct ring of fire to execute it.
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Showing posts with label 9/8. Show all posts
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Saturday, September 10, 2011
A Plasmoidy Ozric NINE
I love these guys, flute (which rests for this song) and all.. and even though usually stay in common time, its cool when they trip into the aurally odd dimension.
Check out the intro in nine which sounds like 7+2 to me... building tension, building tension, then relief (for some ears) to 8/8 and returns to 9/8 for a bit later, just to stir things up a bit.
Ah now I feel Plasmoidy,
BetZe13
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Check out the intro in nine which sounds like 7+2 to me... building tension, building tension, then relief (for some ears) to 8/8 and returns to 9/8 for a bit later, just to stir things up a bit.
Ah now I feel Plasmoidy,
BetZe13
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Tuesday, September 6, 2011
Seedin' my brain in 9 with Kreator
I can't help it
I just LOOOOVE Metal
I'm a Metalhead, I'm a Metalhead
and I wanna Rockn' Rolllll
Well especially if its raw, chunky and in 9/8... ha
Okay its in 4/4 too, but thank you Kreator for planting this brainseed. \m/
Brainfeedin',
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I just LOOOOVE Metal
I'm a Metalhead, I'm a Metalhead
and I wanna Rockn' Rolllll
Well especially if its raw, chunky and in 9/8... ha
Okay its in 4/4 too, but thank you Kreator for planting this brainseed. \m/
Brainfeedin',
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Friday, September 2, 2011
Anybody got any 9 that's just naggin' to show off?
Nine is not a meter that grooves with me naturally. I need some inspiration... hint, hint... Got any? oh good, then send them along, would love to hear what you got... and so would many others... Send me your true 9, doesn't have to be all in 9, but if its a real 9 (9/4, 9/8, 9/16, 9/32, 9/64 etc) then this is the time and place to show it off.
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Waitin' for 9,
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Waitin' for 9,
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Thursday, September 1, 2011
Happy Psychedelphia Month of NINE
So lets celebrate today and invoke this month with some Deadphish in 9, aka Psychedelphia's Nano.
Psychedelphia is a progressive jazz fusion band quartet out of, yup you guested it, PA USA. A while back I received their demo and put them on rotation. I am not sure if its the same line up, but they are certainly still grooving. Many people have tried to bring out the dormant Deadphish in me. It got to a point where I just thought it wasn't in me at all. But that to Psychedelphia they brought it out with 9,7 or 13. Right on!
Check out their psychedelaoddness Psychedelphia.com
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Thursday, September 17, 2009
Didjeridu Teaches NINE
Just when you thought you've heard it all, here comes the didjeridu in NINE. Thats right, Randy Graves wants to show you how to rock it out in many odd meters, including 9/8 - on his "Your 'Somewhat ODD' Didjeridu Companion" instructional CD. Really its not all just for that big hollow stick, it can be translated on any instrument. Here's how he teaches NINE, (for educational purposes only).
Its kind of hypnotizing. Hang out for a little while and see where it takes you.
in the ninth dimension,
BetZe13
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Sunday, September 13, 2009
Sting in NINE
Sting and his Police State was one of my first musical fascinations. The infatuations (the music and Stewart) started in sixth grade and has since matured to a deep appreciation of his authentic approach to music. In his solo work he is daring in his meter use as a form of exploration and curiosity, not really one of technicality. The following are some of examples of Sting in NINE: 'I Hung My Head' from Mercury Falling - Sounds like a tale from a past life.
'Big Lie, Small World' from Brand New Day
From what I've experienced of his music so far it that he tends to stay in one meter throughout and not really engage in multimeter use. A Sting Schizm would be certainly appealing to my metric obsessiveness but by sticking only to one or two meters in a song the rhythm has a chance to get under your toes and perhaps by the end of the song your feet will really be feeling it. So let Sting show you that NINE deserves your attention and sooner or later you will forget who four is.
Stung in NINE,
BetZe13
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Saturday, September 12, 2009
Hank Levy Teaches NINE
'The Time Revolution' by Hank Levy is an instructional manual in odd meters that was inspired by his love of exotic rhythms and desire to instigate and spread the Time Revolution. This book is 71pp in length and a bit difficult to find. The majority of the book concentrates on getting 5s and 7s under your skin and singing in your sleep and upon graduation of that you can do any meter. He works on the theory that its all 2s and 3s and this is what he has to say about NINE. 
What you couldn't read the type? Here's the important stuff: under 'Other Extended Meters' this is what it said about NINE. "9/4 is very much like 5 or 7, with a few extra beats. It can be subdivided into four units - 3+2+2+2, 2+3+2+2, 2+2+3+2 or 2+2+2+3 - or it can be divided into three units of 3. It is exciting to set up a pattern of four uneven units and, within the piece, use a measure or two or 3+3+3 and then return to the first pattern. Interplay between patterns can produce rhythmic tension and interest when done with taste and discretion. A pattern should be set as the standard for a piece, allowing it to settle before deviating. As exotic meters are not normal, it is important that audience and musician alike get the feel of the rhythmic pattern involved."
What you couldn't read the type? Here's the important stuff: under 'Other Extended Meters' this is what it said about NINE. "9/4 is very much like 5 or 7, with a few extra beats. It can be subdivided into four units - 3+2+2+2, 2+3+2+2, 2+2+3+2 or 2+2+2+3 - or it can be divided into three units of 3. It is exciting to set up a pattern of four uneven units and, within the piece, use a measure or two or 3+3+3 and then return to the first pattern. Interplay between patterns can produce rhythmic tension and interest when done with taste and discretion. A pattern should be set as the standard for a piece, allowing it to settle before deviating. As exotic meters are not normal, it is important that audience and musician alike get the feel of the rhythmic pattern involved."
A real feel for this NINE business is starting to sink in and am growing particular to the permutation 2+2+3+2. Not sure if I totally agree that its all 2 & 3, with that theory one can get stuck in a certain patterns and divisions, but its a good place to start.
2232,
BetZe13
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Thursday, September 10, 2009
New Rhythm Book Teaches NINE
Here's an excerpt on NINE from Don Ellis's "New Rhythm Book" found in Chapter 6 "An Approach to Odd Time Signatures for Keyboard and Guitar Players' by Milcho Leviev. Its not the basic basics of NINE, but gets into interesting concepts.
Just makes you want to super impose in NINE? Well I might help slightly if I had the accompanying vinyl (soon, I say soon universe), or if we started from the beginning of the book, or if was easier to read. So here's what it says:
"The time signature of 9 could be a regular one (3+3+3) or subdivided irregularly in 4 different ways: 2+2+2+3,3+2+2+2,2+3+2+2,2+2+3+2. Lets examine this pattern: Example 73.
This is the rhythm section's open vamp for the solos. The rock bass line was derived from a more simple pattern at the beginning of the chart which shows the subdivision of the meter clearly: Example 74
Notice example 73, what the drummer's cymbal is doing. It is playing even quarters with are on the heavy beats in the first bar and on the off beats in the second bar. If we cancel the bar between the two measures they will become one measure of 9/4. Remember this, because when we later begin to analyze 'Strawberry Soup', a composition in which the measure of 9 is exploited in almost every possible way, we will see the basic concept is just the opposite. It is written in 9/4 and is subdivided in two bars of 9/8.
You might say all these things have nothing to do with your playing the piano or guitar, but that is not true. We have to be aware of everything the other players are doing especially the bassist and drummer.
'Relaxing Todora' was written in 9/8 instead of 9/4, because the bass pattern and some of the horn figures would look very unclear on paper otherwise, and because the main feeling is one of rock. We know that in the rock idioms we think in eighths and even sixteenths, rather than in quarters. A parallel between a regular 4/4 rock and this kind of 9/8 would make the matter clearer: Example 75
For soloing on this pattern, we should definitely think in sixteenths in order to get the driving feeling. A staring point could be one of the horn patterns: Example 76
'Strawberry Soup' is one of the richest (musically and technically) compositions of Don's creativity and on the Band's bag, as well. As it was said before, here we have 9/4 subdivided in two 9/8 bars: Example 77
The 9/4 bar could be treated as having 9 even quarters or 3+3+3 over 4. The two 9/8 bars obviously are of the kind 3+2+2+2 over 8. Feeling the two measures together (9/4 and the same time the two 9/8s) is the basic task for soloing in this piece (if we have and open vamp D-7). The challenge becomes much greater if we want to solo on the basic 10 bar blues type structure of the piece. For that purpose we need the following scheme: Example 78
If you are strong-willed enough to first understand and then to practice and feel comfortable in a structure like that, you won't have any problems playing in the 'oddest' of meters!"
Get it now? I'm starting to nineit. More lessons to come.
Schemin' NINE,
BetZe13
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Just makes you want to super impose in NINE? Well I might help slightly if I had the accompanying vinyl (soon, I say soon universe), or if we started from the beginning of the book, or if was easier to read. So here's what it says:
"The time signature of 9 could be a regular one (3+3+3) or subdivided irregularly in 4 different ways: 2+2+2+3,3+2+2+2,2+3+2+2,2+2+3+2. Lets examine this pattern: Example 73.
This is the rhythm section's open vamp for the solos. The rock bass line was derived from a more simple pattern at the beginning of the chart which shows the subdivision of the meter clearly: Example 74
Notice example 73, what the drummer's cymbal is doing. It is playing even quarters with are on the heavy beats in the first bar and on the off beats in the second bar. If we cancel the bar between the two measures they will become one measure of 9/4. Remember this, because when we later begin to analyze 'Strawberry Soup', a composition in which the measure of 9 is exploited in almost every possible way, we will see the basic concept is just the opposite. It is written in 9/4 and is subdivided in two bars of 9/8.
You might say all these things have nothing to do with your playing the piano or guitar, but that is not true. We have to be aware of everything the other players are doing especially the bassist and drummer.
'Relaxing Todora' was written in 9/8 instead of 9/4, because the bass pattern and some of the horn figures would look very unclear on paper otherwise, and because the main feeling is one of rock. We know that in the rock idioms we think in eighths and even sixteenths, rather than in quarters. A parallel between a regular 4/4 rock and this kind of 9/8 would make the matter clearer: Example 75
For soloing on this pattern, we should definitely think in sixteenths in order to get the driving feeling. A staring point could be one of the horn patterns: Example 76
'Strawberry Soup' is one of the richest (musically and technically) compositions of Don's creativity and on the Band's bag, as well. As it was said before, here we have 9/4 subdivided in two 9/8 bars: Example 77
The 9/4 bar could be treated as having 9 even quarters or 3+3+3 over 4. The two 9/8 bars obviously are of the kind 3+2+2+2 over 8. Feeling the two measures together (9/4 and the same time the two 9/8s) is the basic task for soloing in this piece (if we have and open vamp D-7). The challenge becomes much greater if we want to solo on the basic 10 bar blues type structure of the piece. For that purpose we need the following scheme: Example 78
If you are strong-willed enough to first understand and then to practice and feel comfortable in a structure like that, you won't have any problems playing in the 'oddest' of meters!"
Get it now? I'm starting to nineit. More lessons to come.
Schemin' NINE,
BetZe13
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Wednesday, September 9, 2009
9-9-09 The New Nine - Wicked Cool Song of the Year
Leave it up to Don Ellis to write the 'Wickedest Coolest Song of the Year'... Well actually it was recorded in 1966 but this is the year and this is the day of the New Nine... 9-9-09. Here are some details from the 'Live at Monterey' liner notes: "This 2223 subdivision of 9 is common to many countries (among them Turkey, Greece and India). Harmonically it is based both on Indian Raga and the Blues. At one time or another, the following subdivisions of 9 are heard: 2223, 2232, 2322, 3222, 333, and 222222222 (over 2 bars). At the very end a 333 and 122122233 (over two bars) subdivision of the basic 2223 is heard."
So have a listen to some samples from this 11:27 min song:
Holymenoly this song sure smokes and in every combo of NINE... Now I am really getting the feel for NINE and I think I am diggin' it. The organ lead, the trumpet and clapping solo and the overall poly rhythms in NINE are especially cool. Congratulations New NINE you are the 'Wickedest Coolest Song of the Year' (by me, haha).
Newly NINE,
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Monday, September 7, 2009
Tool in NINE
Okay, so I am still obsessing about NINE which, hasn't really hit my core... yet... but we have the rest of the month don't we?
(We meaning NINE and I.)
Here's a short sample from Tool (for educational purposes only) to demonstrate how they felt NINE on 10,000 days.
I don't know... its a cool riff and all, but I am just having a hard time resonating with this number. Hum, maybe I should investigate some numerology or something to find out why I repel this number, or it repels me.
neuf, neuve, neun, nope,
-BetZe
(We meaning NINE and I.)
Here's a short sample from Tool (for educational purposes only) to demonstrate how they felt NINE on 10,000 days.
I don't know... its a cool riff and all, but I am just having a hard time resonating with this number. Hum, maybe I should investigate some numerology or something to find out why I repel this number, or it repels me.
neuf, neuve, neun, nope,
-BetZe
Thursday, September 3, 2009
The Bad Plus in NINE
Well keeping with the nine theme, here are some samples of 9/8. I just love what these guys do with NINE.
Bad Plus off of their 'Prog' Album
Lovin NINE,
-BetZe13
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Bad Plus off of their 'Prog' Album
Lovin NINE,
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Wednesday, September 2, 2009
Banjo in NINE - Rampi Rampi
Check out another one of Cathy Moore's banjo instructional videos: This one is in 9 and helps get the 2223 feel under your skin no matter what you play or what you listen to.
You can visit her at:
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Bumdidy Foreva,
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You can visit her at:
BanjoMeetsWorld.wordpress.com
Bumdidy Foreva,
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Tuesday, September 1, 2009
Welcome September the Month of Nine
According to Gregorian this is the ninth month of the year. I don't fully agree with this calendar system, its garaged our minds in a way, but more on this later. Nonetheless, lets us delve deep into this number this month and the many ways it can be expressed in various forms of music - and what not a better way than some Bulgarian Folk.
This music has been provided by the generous educational site
Check them out for more Macedonian Folk Music and Dances.
432,234,81,
-BetZe13
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This music has been provided by the generous educational site
Check them out for more Macedonian Folk Music and Dances.
432,234,81,
-BetZe13
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